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    November 05

    Needed: A powerful counterpoint

    Today's entry is being made with a half-hour time limit, for I have discovered that studying 6 subjects in 23 days is going to be...well, unimaginable. Two points must be made before I proceed:

    1. There were 5 probables today. Out of them, this one was chosen due to the "one blog a week" policy I have chosen to judiciously follow. The other 4, sadly, might never see the light of day.
    2. This entry promises to court controversy.

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    There have been two big news last week- the Red Fort sentences, and the retaliatory bomb blasts in Delhi. And as with each terrorist incident, you could not miss noticing that each involved person is a Muslim. Every time anyone might read any terrorism related incident in the papers, watch a report on TV, atleast 9 times out of 10, there will be Muslims involved in it. This is the premise of the entry. Trust me, I have nothing against Muslims, and there is nothing derogatory about them here on. But if you feel, that religious sentiments might be hurt, do not read further. If you believe in free exchange of thoughts and ideas, read on.

    My objectives in making this entry on the eve of Id festivities may be questionable, but I harbour no ill will. I have simply not been brought up to think that Muslims are a challenge to Hindus, or that we must be combative to them. I am not a religious zealot, or a bigot, not even a devout Hindu. But certain matters must be raised, sensitive or otherwise.

    Practically everywhere in the world today, all terrorist activities involve Muslims in one form or the other. No fewer than 80% (a conservative figure) of all such activities originate within Islamic nations and organisations. Be it in Kashmir, Afghanistan, Palestine, Egypt, Chechnya, or wherever you would care to look. Being secular as we are (no sarcasm here), we tend to turn a blind eye to the fact that only Muslim names seem to turn up everywhere. Muslim clerics are usually prompt in denouncing these attacks, and statements are made that terrorists belong to no religion. The way I look at it, this is no more than eyewash.

    Given that many Muslims (particularly in India) do not support these dastardly actions. Indeed, as in Delhi, they are often equally affected by these incidents. But Muslim society must somewhere on the whole, sit up and take notice of this. That there does exist somewhere, an intrinsic flaw in its constitution. As many vocal supporters as may exist, there are many who are not particularly expressive of their support, but provide it covertly to nefarious activities.

    Why is this happening? I can hardly claim to have seen Muslim society up close, for I have only a couple of Muslim friends, just acquaintances infact, and a very talented junior. But from what I can make out, I think it is the resistance to change which is costing them dear. News reports from Pakistan on women being raped by in-laws, on the education being provided in madrassas. The whole Yousuf Yohana incident which smacks of coercion.  The general refusal to move on to more progressive ways, a multicultural society which demands that no person can keep an entirely separate identity.

    Imagine what would have happened if Hindus had insisted on child marriage, and learning the Vedas (which the RSS and VHP, no doubt, still want to happen), where would we be now? Fact is, most of out generation is proud of our identity, culture and religion; but we desist from carrying it on our sleeves. We dont believe so much in temples and rituals. I am supposedly a Brahmin, but I havent been baptised, rarely visit temples, and eat non-vegetarian food. The world is moving fast, and although we should not lose our identity, we absolutely cannot expect it to be imposed on others.

    My dad has another theory going. Islam is the newest new religion around, and historically all new religions have been aggressive, so that they could spread quickly. This is normally seen in the first thousand or so years. Trouble is, Islam has come up at such a time, that the dynamics of an ever-changing world simply do not allow this!

    Why, again, have I brought up this issue? For, this issue in all probability is the most important one of our times. Hindus suffer from terrorism in India, Christians in the US and UK, Jews in Israel, why even Muslims in Egypt! That Egypt was attacked examplifies the regressed outlook, that even a progressive Muslim nation should not be spared. The foreseeable future will, at this rate, see an all-out war between Muslims and the rest of the world. And this war is assured to end in Armaggedon.

    Sensitive as it may be, the time is rife for a free, frank, and comprehensive debate on the issue. Our usual way- pretending that the problem does not exist, and then wishing that it somehow dies its own death - will not throw up any solutions. For once, lets accept that there is a problem. And then think about working out a solution.

    Let me re-state. The objective is not to hurt any sentiments. The objective is to progress. To survive in harmony. If anyone at all has a strong counterview, please write back. I would love to debate this.

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    It just ain't the same, always unchanged
    New days are strange, is the world insane
    If love and peace is so strong
    Why are there pieces of love that don't belong
    Nations droppin' bombs
    Chemical gasses fillin' lungs of little ones
    With the ongoin' sufferin' as the youth die young
    So ask yourself is the lovin' really gone
    So I could ask myself really what is goin' wrong
    In this world that we livin' in people keep on givin' in
    Makin' wrong decisions, only visions of them dividends
    Not respectin' each other, deny thy brother
    A war is goin' on but the reason's undercover
    The truth is kept secret, it's swept under the rug
    If you never know truth then you never know love
    Where's the love, y'all, come on (I don't know)
    Where's the truth, y'all, come on (I don't know)
    Where's the love, y'all

    People killin', people dyin'
    Children hurt and you hear them cryin'
    Can you practice what you preach
    And would you turn the other cheek
    - Where is the love
    The Black Eyed Peas

    Comments (21)

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    maddy7285 wrote:
    well i must applaude you on even taking up something like this. my best friend is from the maldives, a relatively unexposed muslim nation. and the way they see islam is absolutly different. we have discussed a lot of things with regard to religion and the ways of life prescribed/proscribes by both faiths. well there is a world of a difference. but what shocked me most was how many interpretations of the holy muslim text have been twisted around for vested interests.. political and otherwise. the same has been done with hinduism as well.
    i agree with you when you when you say , its time we sat up and did something... but i think we need to concentrate on not misusing something as delicated as religion/faith for such things as power or money.. i think it is also absolutly wrong to point fingers and like someone else said .... equate a religion to terrorism.

    hey btw, good luck with the exams.
    Nov. 18
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    She-Lucifer wrote:
    I really agree with everything u have stated above..!

    Ohh...& i saw 19 comments here...!Just thot I shud make it 20! :P

    Take Care
    Ciao!
    Nov. 14
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    demented_angel_08 wrote:
    u have an awesum space!!! I luv that song!!!do you like the greek gods? TTYL
    Nov. 11
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    She-Lucifer wrote:
    Whos acting all pricey NOW...!!?!
    *hmphf*!
    Nov. 11
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    AnotherPrickOnTheWall wrote:
    Wow!!
    This entry is kicking up quite a storm I see...
    Seriously this is one reason why I never would resort to blogging bout such a controversial topic...

    I safely shall NOT give my views on this.. Apart from.. WELL WRITTEN... GIVE URSELF A PAT ON THE BACK...

    Hehe..
    Ciao.. & TC...
    Nov. 11
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    She-Lucifer wrote:
    Lol...!
    c'mon I'm not acting pricey...!

    But seriously thank u for letting ur imgination run wild and coming up with such brilliant reasons for my absence....!honestly...with fellow bloggers like u who needs enemies;P!!lolol

    I see ur very strictly sticking to ur 1 blog a week policy...I too will be doin sumthin similar soon perhaps..>!
    I've to read ur previous post too soon...!Jus a li'l lack of time abhi!

    Take Care!
    Ciao!
    Nov. 10
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    -MissContrary- wrote:
    Why would you think that?! I didn't change my profile, just my nickname! Have you read all my posts that you so easily dismiss me not giving credit to Mr. Kerouac? Huh, huh, huh?
    Okay, I haven't, but 'twas worth a try. *grin*
    Nov. 10
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    pé®ég®ïnûs wrote:
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    Thought the debate had died down, but manish just brought it to life. And so here I am, writing something I had decided not to.

    1. I DO NOT endorse the view posted in a comment that terrorism equates to Islam. Such is mentioned neither explicitly not implicitly anywhere in the piece.
    2. I still stand by what I have written. It is totally dispassionate, based on fact, and neither aims to nor attempts to denigrate Muslims or Islam.
    3. I do not believe that violence in any form should be condoned, and am a vocal opponent of the RSS, the VHP, the BJP, and the Shivsena. The Babri masjid and Godhra riots are the biggest blots on each of us as Hindus.
    4. Immigrant muslim communties are wreaking havoc everywhere in the world. Paris, the latest incident. And it doesnt really help their case any. They have already become too notorious for their own good, and will always be looked upon with suspicion. Whose loss is this??
    5. Zofo: If muslim society does nothing, who will? All we can do is wait for things to change. If they dont, tolerances which are already stretched thin, will reach a flashpoint, and the consequences are bound to be dire for each of us.
    6. As prerna says, no religion advocates killing of innocent people. But the misinterpretation of religion is pulling in thousands of young, impressionable muslims into the fold.

    Well, thats all. Lets have some more points!
    Nov. 9
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    -MissContrary- wrote:
    Oh, it's from Jack Kerouac's On The Road. Awesome read.
    Nov. 9
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    -akikola- wrote:
    I refuse to reasd; I'm quite obstinate.
    I tried putting the author's names in there, but it exceeds the character limit. So *pooh*!
    Nov. 9
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    Manish Jethwani wrote:
    Before i begin any sort of comments on your blog, i must say that one of the most disturbing comments has come from a feedback saying.."I totally agree with Kunal that terrorism can be equated to islam ".
    I myself do not believe in any sort of religion, rather, i'm an atheist.
    But i have to say that if those are your thought on this issue then i can, in no way, agree with you. Having said that, i do also realise that muslims are involved in almost all acts of terrorism. However, we also should keep in mind that if muslims are commiting such heinous crimes, it is also muslims that do die in these events (Taliban for instance...obviously they killed muslims). So, the intentions of men behind these crimes are not to kill those of other religion.
    Some of the facts that we turn a blind eye to are the actions taken by the muslim community in order to bring some sort of order to the society.
    Recently, some mosques declared that they would not be playing the namaz on loudspeakers. Do we have any instances of us hindus coming up with any such sort of incentives to bring harmony into our society? We always play music on all nine nights of navratri, and still crib about the 10pm deadline. In fact the deadline, as we know, was extended upto 12am only because certain voices that were raised by us hindus.
    Moreover, we never realise that hindus first demolished the Babri Masjid and thus, virtually ignited the flame for the 1992 riots. We had no right to question the existence of a monument that was built 4 centuries back. Also, it was only the 'supposed' birth place of Ram, no concrete evidence to prove any sort of reality in the myth. Whatever the case might have been, cant we be tolerant enough to respect the existence of another religion? For god's sake, dont these religions have the hindu equivalent of 'temples' (which of course we treat as the residence of our gods).

    By saying this, i am in no way justifying the acts of voilence or terrorism. I am only trying to voice that, one, we have no right to criticize islam and equate it to terrorism, and two, that islam, like hinduism, is a religion with proper set of principles, meant to bring harmony just like any other religion, unite its followers like any other religion. We must understand that most muslims themselves dont approve these acts of voilence, which itself says that the religion is not at fault.

    Excuse me for giving a feedback of this length, and also for dismissing certain comments that i felt were not relevant.
    Nov. 9
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    Prerna78 wrote:
    First of all, very well put! I couldnt agree with you more on the entire issue....all the terrorism acts that happen around the world, if related to religion, are related to Islam. agreed that it is not right to categorize something that is so broad, but one has to start somewhere. Infact I think it's not the religion but the interpretation of the religion and the way people are using it to commit crimes. And I guess those are smart people coz they know how easy it is to get people to commit crime if they are made to believe that it is in the name of God! That's why these people dont believe in education coz with education comes awareness, and ability to decide what's right v/s wrong. Gosh, I can go forever on this topic(would love to right on it myself someday)...but that's all for now.
    Peace!
    Nov. 8
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    She-Lucifer wrote:
    " earmarked for deletion in 15 days "
    ----how rude---!!

    Amazingly I left delhi the day the bomb blasts happened..>! Otherwise I wud've been shopping in sarojini for sure...!!!

    *hmphf* whatever!

    God Bless
    Nov. 7
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    -akikola- wrote:
    Just so you know, I didn't read beyond the warning. I get awfully provoke by religious debates; I now live in a country that despites anything that remotely suggests Islam; I may not be a follower, but the way people refer to them irks me no end.
    Hope all's well. Good luck with the studying.
    Nov. 7
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    Main Hoon Kaun wrote:
    Certainly a very sensitive and relevant issue. It would be interesting to note a few things which i have observed and tried.
    1. Islam as such has been spread only by sword and by no other means.
    2. The rulers have aggresivley followed the policy of appeasement be it that of law (basic freedom is still being rejected to women in name of shariat) or reservations or riots. even the Us - American leaders have got into Iftaar diplomacies
    3. 95% Muslim are intoelrant. If u have observed, when pissed of the most prominent abuse is 'kafar'. Try mocking nething abt their religion in front of even the most seemingly progressive lot and u will know what i mean.
    4. I totally agree with Kunal that terrorism can be equated to islam.
    5. For those who have not read history with interest, whatever history we learn has been doctored to keep Muslims in abetter light and this attempt is very easily recognizable.
    Nov. 6
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    leprechaunINaBOTTLE wrote:
    agreed, the world's going bonkers, it's not only the muslims who're commiting acts of terror, what about the rest of the world and divorce which leaves children in a torn state, drugs, promiscuity, domestic violence and stuff that happens behind closed doors?!

    it's those things too that are contributing to the pain and suffering in the world. all sense of right and wrong has been lost in the name of change. we have to change, but that doesn't mean we loose all our boundaries, and float around in a sea of immorality and evil.

    i know i've strayed from the topic, but i think it could act as a balance in it's own way for your article.

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    Nov. 6
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    paranoid_enigma wrote:
    talking about a solution....taking the example of our religion for instance where we so coolly downplay the antics of overtly religious morons....the good muslims should for once stop taking the onus of their religion ....and advertise it on their sleeves....give themselves a break...live freely ,progressively, and show the fanatics that happiness lies elsewhere ...life is not about religion....its quite the contrary...if religion is preventing your happiness ,then its time for analysing and rule bending.....stop shouldering the responsibilty of your religion for heaven's sake and let the select few who have decided to waste their lives for the cause ...(do we call these nuts as preachers?)...do the job of mending the rusty populace of your religion...
    Nov. 6
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    paranoid_enigma wrote:
    An extremely sensitive issue,mustsay....given the fact that i have come close to nasty confrontations on this matter owing to my proximity to hyderabad which boasts of millions of them...yeah ,with a great deal of effort i still have managed not to harbour any ill feelings towards this clan ..but when you hear them publicly grandly talking of london and pakistan as their hometowns ,so totally oblivious of the country bearing them...bearing did i say?...giving them a goddamn 5%reservation in all fields of academia...aargh....and those ungrateful slimy dunces with misplaced loyalties still form the priority of our integritystripped politicians...nevertheless ,I am quite clueless about why even the nice ones are so averse to the entire concept of atheism ...okay ,out of context ,but cant help rambling this ,..once religion crops up and there is a muslim around ,you would see them onguard and cautious ,defensive ,more rightly,even when the others are royally bashing their religions shamelessly with no concern whatsoever,you would hear a muslim vouching for the apparent greatness of their controversial religion quite unasked.....on a more thoughtful note,the rare good ones have a great deal to dodge -the dirty glances of the world and simultaneoulsy defend their religion...maybe that explains why all of them are deeply religious without exception....without exception,trustme!
    Nov. 6
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    zofo_9 wrote:
    Asking the whole muslim world to sit up and do something ain't right... you fail to take into account that the fanatics number a few thousands... given the current trend of learning at Madrasa in a lot of the places these institutions flourish there are no other schools....

    ... even Buddhist lay priests study in Monasteries.. these are schools which steep them in religion... or take the orthodox jews for that matter they too are fanatics when it comes to living like Moses did... every religion has such sects... not just the Muslims...

    but yes the problem is that these days the media and governments have found a nice scapegoat to blame every act of terrorism on these few hundred thousand fanatics... A know evil is better than an unkown one... no wonder they are in no hurry to apprehend Osama Bin Laden.. as they can keep blaming him for all the bombings... because once if they did apprehend him... they will have to find a new scapegoat... that my friend is a bigger headache for them...

    But there is definite merit in what you say.. maybe if solving this problem was easy we wouldn't be facing this unseen terror which forever now lurks in the background waiting to scare us like a boogey man...

    cheers
    z
    Nov. 5
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    fяαgιℓє wrote:
    this is really nice...bt none of it will help those ass-holes who have no feelings at all...
    Nov. 5

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